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Trail #2 - 10 Trails We Should Build Before We Worry about Converting Rails to Trails

12/4/2012

10 Comments

 
To see the introductory Blog Post to this series and the other trail suggestions click HERE
UPDATE

The response from these entries has been great. Thank you to everyone who has commented, emailed, and telephoned. Keep the comments coming.

As a result of these blog posts I ended up having a meeting with a representative of the Barkeater Trail Alliance (BETA) today to compare their proposal for trails and what my suggestions are. It was gratifying if not surprising to see how similar they are.

I also attended an unrelated meeting that brought up a topic that is very germane to my suggested trails. The meeting was about rock climbing and the practice of bolting or putting in permanent protection on rock climbing routes in Wilderness Areas. I asked some of the veteran rock climbers if they consider whether they are in a Wilderness Area or Wild Forest Area when they make a decision to place a bolt. The response was "no" but they do consider whether they are close to the road or in a more remote setting. I asked the state representatives in attendance if the State Land Master Plan can make that type of differentiation within a specific land classification and I got, what I thought was, a fascinating response. The individual said that the state is exploring the recognition and application of what is called the Wilderness Recreation Opportunity Spectrum. (WROS) The simplest explanation of the WROS is that it recognizes that there is a range of wilderness from not so wild (an example might be the Giant Mountain Wilderness Area along the route 73 Chapel Pond corridor) to the extremely wild. (In the Adirondacks that might be exemplified by the Cold River region in the High Peaks Wilderness Area) The meeting’s discussion focused on rock climbing bolts but I asked that if it applied to rock climbing bolts might it also recognize that mountain biking could be appropriate in wilderness areas along the periphery of wilderness areas given that the definition of Wilderness limits motorized uses but does not specifically limit mechanized uses. I did not get an outright “no.”

The conversation is relevant to these blog entries because I will be recommending some trails within Wilderness Areas (including yesterday’s and today's) that I think would be appropriate for mountain biking because they are on the periphery of the Wilderness Area. I thought the discussion opened a tiny window to the potential of opening certain regions of certain Wilderness Areas to activities such as mountain biking. I think it is something that should be lobbied for in the High Peaks and McKenzie Wilderness Areas around the Village  of Saranac Lake.


Trail #2 - Moose Pond Trail

The trail already exists into Moose Pond from Route 3. I am suggesting the formal continuation of the trail around Moose Pond. This would allow for two access points (a second at the end of the Moose Pond Road) and provide a loop trail for hikers, bikers, snowshoers, and cross-country skiers. People love loop trails because they don't have to retrace their steps.


In a future post I will show how we can interconnect this trail with the others I am proposing.
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Name

2. Moose Pond Trail

Access/Description

From the Route 3 trailhead north of the village to Moose Pond and then around Moose Pond.

Difficulty 
Most activities - Easy 
Mountain Biking  -Moderate 

Distance

4 miles

Thoughts/Issues

The trail from Route 3 to the pond exists. This trail in the McKenzie Wilderness should be made accessible by all but snowmobiles. (would need regulatory change to get bicycles)
10 Comments
sam churco
12/4/2012 08:27:53 pm

Then from pine pond you could continue to Lake placid on a trail that already is established. Love both trails!

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Doug
12/4/2012 11:21:14 pm

The prohibition of mountain bikes in Wilderness Areas was not part of the original Adirondack Park State Land Master Plan. It was added in 1985 and not even enforced for a few years after that. The ban was not based on any research or study at that time. Basically, one highly placed DEC political appointee pushed this through. There are places in areas designated as Wilderness where mountain bike use would be appropriate. It is time for the DEC and APA to revisit this issue with solid research, study and discussion, then make sensible adjustments to the blanket ban.

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Ken Youngblood
12/4/2012 11:26:50 pm

Jack, either you or I am way off track. I thought you were going to propose an alternative to a rails-to-trails recreation way that linked town to town. If so, it would have to avoid motorized traffic, and be accessible to folks who would otherwise be daunted by the kind of recreation a rails-to-trails experience has to offer such as children on bikes with training wheels, and people in wheelchairs who wish to experience the outdoors. What you are offering...splintered in-and-out excursions on terrain more suitable to hearty hikers and seasoned mountainbikers is not what the ARTA folks are trying to create. It is certainly useful, and there would be a market for it, but the sum total of your proposals are not an alternative to what could be the finest...if not the busiest...rails-to-trails corridor in the East

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Jack Drury
12/5/2012 12:10:58 pm

Ken,
By reading my title and introduction you will see that I am not trying to create an alternative to the ARTA project per se. I define the problem as well as the solution differently than ARTA. My feeling is that there many other things we should do BEFORE we consider ripping up the tracks. I believe these trails will provide a wider range of opportunities from novice to expert and will meet the needs of as many tourists (and residents) as the ARTA project and still allow the trail to exist.
As always thanks for your perspective. It is a healthy debate.

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Ken Youngblood
12/6/2012 12:10:39 am

I reread your contextual introduction and got your focus. And I heartily endorse each proposal, though fraught with regulatory impediments. However, I'd have to question your rational alternative assertion. These proposed trails are not what rails-to-trails greenways are all about. Mountainbikers might ride the Adirondack RT once, or locally as a commute, but would be bored stiff to return to the area to ride the endlessly flat terrain again and again. Too darn monotonous. And the tourist clientele that an Adirondack RT would attract would not be up to the rigors of even a moderate trail such as those so far suggested. They are looking for a tranquil, casual pushpedal that takes in pretty sights, goes thru quaint town after quaint town, offers the convenience of cute B&B's and retro hotels such as the Hotel Saranac or one of the old lumberjack hotels in Tupper, main streets to stroll, shops to shop and good restaurants at convenient intervals throughout the day. They want the family from age 5 to 80 to be able enjoy the experience together without the threat of vehicular traffic, or aggressive mountainbikers on narrow trails.

As a rational man you should know that if we take your lead-in literally, the BEFORE has so many regulatory hurdles, trail funding and building challenges that you and I would be long dead BEFORE what is not at all an alternative becomes a substitute for an Adirondack RT.

You mention that ARTA needs to invent an antagonist, but in presenting your alternative you made ARTA an antagonist the moment you launched your proposal. ARTA has been accused of not being willing to work with the train advocates, but here in your proposal ARTA would find a perfect complement to their efforts and would support you in the difficult political challenge you face.

Doug
12/5/2012 12:19:59 pm

I ride the train about once a year. I always see families with excited young children and almost always wheelchair users too. Let's not throw that out for a trail only alternative. Train people all know the story of the little engine that could. We can have both and deserve both.

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Matt link
12/5/2012 05:46:33 am

A capped park-wide mileage allowance for "primitive corridors" is an idea whose time has come. In practice, the "allowance" idea is not unlike the snowmobile trail mileage cap. Accordingly, The critical connector trails that would serve to link a larger multi-use trail system would take priority. Trail alignments in Wilderness would stick as closely to periphery areas as possible to preserve undeveloped core areas. Most would agree(mtn. bikers included) that the densely looped trail systems (like some of those currently approved in Wild Forest areas) are inappropriate in Wilderness, but allowing for a few well-planned and managed primitive corridors through Wilderness would be a smart management strategy to bring real destination-worthy mountain biking to our region without sacrificing the value and character of Wilderness.

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Doug
12/5/2012 12:27:52 pm

That is an attractive concept. Light-years ahead of what happened in 1985. This is the kind of discussion I think Jack wanted to stimulate with this series. We should all be able to get behind an idea like this.

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Matt
12/5/2012 01:26:54 pm

I hope so. The train/trail discussion is still a good one, albeit contentious at times. "Beating a dead horse" as they say, is probably an understatement regarding some of the arguments that keep coming up on either side. In any case, there are certainly many more trail discussions besides that in our area that should not stop moving forward just because the train/trail debate continues. That being said, I would be hesitant to compare the economic impacts from our traditional Adirondack narrow, windy natural-surface trails to what a long distance smooth surfaced rail trail conversion provides. It's really a very different thing, even though they both happen to get called "trails".

Dick Jarvis
12/5/2012 11:17:36 pm

One of my old favorites trails. Phil Johnstone and I one time flagged a potential shorter loop trail connecting two old skid trails between the west shoreline and the ridge along the west boundary; the ridge provides a beautiful view to the mountains to the east in the winter.
On the east side of the pond, there are a few short steep slopes. The crossing of Moose Creek would likely require a bridge.
I don't think DEC-APA ever dealt with UMP here either...

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